tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4303170759454291361.post6272724274778223359..comments2024-02-07T15:24:37.399+11:00Comments on Old writer on the block: Rogues or incompetents?Peter Macinnishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09723936464781499179noreply@blogger.comBlogger53125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4303170759454291361.post-55391459431818939902019-04-05T09:29:07.722+11:002019-04-05T09:29:07.722+11:00Hey all. I just saw this on the SMH website and ju...Hey all. I just saw this on the SMH website and jumped for joy! It looks like Android Enjoyed/Camersky has been fined $3mil by the Supreme Court!<br /><br />https://www.smh.com.au/business/consumer-affairs/you-will-be-found-out-multimillion-dollar-fine-for-electronics-retailer-20190404-p51ax3.htmlSevrinkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15773316297105677900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4303170759454291361.post-36126969694708547292017-06-20T14:37:15.455+10:002017-06-20T14:37:15.455+10:00Nofoollikeanoldfool 1 - 0 CameraSky
Trust-Guard&#...Nofoollikeanoldfool 1 - 0 CameraSky<br /><br />Trust-Guard's Dispute process worked, however this is not an endorsement, as they have pre-knowledge and data conflict of interest issues and exposure to individual or class-action damage liabilities.<br />Old Contract QS<br />Alan M Morrison <br /><br />Nofoollikeanoldfoolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11025704222351587559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4303170759454291361.post-33348861665731308612017-06-15T10:00:37.981+10:002017-06-15T10:00:37.981+10:00Well Peter Macinnes, this is a fine old mess.
Ther...Well Peter Macinnes, this is a fine old mess.<br />There are 4 Windows are there not?<br />Feeling a bit miffed this morning.<br />What do you think about Dave, David, Brandley ?<br />Got some skin in the game; box of fluffy dice!<br />Regards,<br />AlanNofoollikeanoldfoolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11025704222351587559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4303170759454291361.post-40052618028953204542017-06-14T17:53:25.913+10:002017-06-14T17:53:25.913+10:00Camerasky now masquerading as ONEdigitals mirrored...Camerasky now masquerading as ONEdigitals mirrored site.<br />ABN: 43 614 893 293<br /><br />Nofoollikeanoldfoolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11025704222351587559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4303170759454291361.post-73673445449378116142017-06-14T17:50:52.596+10:002017-06-14T17:50:52.596+10:00Now masquerading as ONEdigitals same mob mirrored ...Now masquerading as ONEdigitals same mob mirrored site, oh dear<br />ABN: 43 614 893 293 <br />VISA Chargeback Code 30 applies (goods not received)Nofoollikeanoldfoolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11025704222351587559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4303170759454291361.post-28701318732863851512017-06-14T17:50:52.069+10:002017-06-14T17:50:52.069+10:00Now masquerading as ONEdigitals same mob mirrored ...Now masquerading as ONEdigitals same mob mirrored site, oh dear<br />ABN: 43 614 893 293 <br />VISA Chargeback Code 30 applies (goods not received)Nofoollikeanoldfoolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11025704222351587559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4303170759454291361.post-1896892978418555502017-02-02T10:29:32.836+11:002017-02-02T10:29:32.836+11:00I'm a profeshnul riter. Wot's spelng an gr...I'm a profeshnul riter. Wot's spelng an grammer?Peter Macinnishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09723936464781499179noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4303170759454291361.post-43128167835678704662017-01-31T14:03:45.600+11:002017-01-31T14:03:45.600+11:00This comment has been removed by the author.Peter Macinnishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09723936464781499179noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4303170759454291361.post-73495496646496174942017-01-31T13:54:50.370+11:002017-01-31T13:54:50.370+11:00thanks peter, and sorry for the poor spelling and ...thanks peter, and sorry for the poor spelling and grammar. <br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13498096060952187805noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4303170759454291361.post-13417854143562076052017-01-31T13:19:51.789+11:002017-01-31T13:19:51.789+11:00We are on the same page, so please share it with m...We are on the same page, so please share it with my enthusiastic blessingPeter Macinnishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09723936464781499179noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4303170759454291361.post-69350311100833076052017-01-31T12:59:42.363+11:002017-01-31T12:59:42.363+11:00i own an aus based electronics retail company and ...i own an aus based electronics retail company and things like this drive me nuts. I must be the only company that imports to aus before sending on to others. the sad thing about these sort of guys is the public will 99% of the time go for the cheapest price possible not taking into account the customs / import duties. if a company states it is 'Australian' then all products should be in australia and the poor consumer should not be slugged with import duties let alone the scams these guys are up to. <br /><br />i had a customer of mine tell me about their bad experiences with android enjoyed and it sickend me. <br />this being brouight to my attention i have spent the last week testing them out on a purchese.. let me just say these guys have every excuse under the sun ready to con the public.<br /><br />with permission of the article author i would like to use this blog as a warning to others whoi wish to buy from china direct. <br /><br />i have been to china many times for business and let me say the way china runs business is scary.<br /><br />good to see other in the community trying to raise the alarm.. keep it going guys :) Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13498096060952187805noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4303170759454291361.post-42184433892745022482016-12-02T20:49:03.794+11:002016-12-02T20:49:03.794+11:00Hi Geoff,
This is the address I have:
DIGITAL M...Hi Geoff,<br /><br />This is the address I have:<br /><br /><br />DIGITAL MARKETING AND<br />SOLUTIONS PTY. LTD.<br />84 Hotham St. Preston<br />Victoria 3072, Australia<br />ACN: 614 893 293<br /><br />I managed to get my refund sorted. I lodged a dispute with Trust Guard (https://secure.trust-guard.com/disputesystem/terms.html), who provide the Trust Seal that CameraSky use on their website. I managed to get all of my money back in a week through this process. Might be worth a try.<br /><br />Cheers,<br />KarenAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12203420693289104590noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4303170759454291361.post-80520129021329304602016-12-02T15:59:26.830+11:002016-12-02T15:59:26.830+11:00Has anyone traced the owners of the Australian com...Has anyone traced the owners of the Australian company/business to Hong Kong. If so can you supply names and addresses please. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00823898289548009711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4303170759454291361.post-62502072287313681832016-11-12T17:30:59.039+11:002016-11-12T17:30:59.039+11:00Karen, this is brilliant, good on you. I have been...Karen, this is brilliant, good on you. I have been scammed by Android Enjoyed to the tune of $500, and need to start my own campaign now. Thanks.<br />Rob Ashdownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02733583035416874917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4303170759454291361.post-63693272657223159312016-11-12T17:28:42.955+11:002016-11-12T17:28:42.955+11:00Thanks Peter. I wish I had done some more research...Thanks Peter. I wish I had done some more research before purchasing a phone from Android Enjoyed this year. Faulty phone, returned to them under warranty, after 110 days of back and forward emails they claim to have refunded me, but there is no trace of the money and they will not send any evidence of the deposit.Rob Ashdownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02733583035416874917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4303170759454291361.post-74851824029034374362016-11-11T15:25:05.570+11:002016-11-11T15:25:05.570+11:00Just posted there, referring them to this blog. I...Just posted there, referring them to this blog. I didn't need a dispute thingy: I fettled them myself, which was far more satisfying. This blog is now becoming a handy resource: please share the URL (I'm not trying to score hits, other than against The Common Enemy).<br /><br />peterPeter Macinnishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09723936464781499179noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4303170759454291361.post-11926537543999897932016-11-11T11:47:48.820+11:002016-11-11T11:47:48.820+11:00Hi Adam,
I assume you are also a CameraSky victim...Hi Adam,<br /><br />I assume you are also a CameraSky victim. I have started contacting those businesses who enable CameraSky - Trust Guard who verify them, Google who list them in shopping results (they have an option at the bottom of the page to report violations), coupon advertisers, etc. I received the following response from Trust Guard on their FaceBook page: <br /><br />Trust Guard Hi Karen, That's a good question. Yes, having our company associated with fraudulent websites and businesses could possibly devalue our brand. That is why we go to great lengths to verify that companies are legit before we agree to work with them; AND we offer help with any customer disputes to ensure the companies we serve are also actively serving their customers and resolving their issues or complaints. We provide website scanning and other verification services to companies all over the world to protect them and their customers. Websites are targets for hackers and we help prevent that devastation from happening. With that said, although this website is apparently listed in the NSW Fair Trading public warnings as you informed us, we still continue to scan and protect the website so that all their customers' private information remain safe. We have only had 3 customer disputes for this company come through us since they started using our services. Two were quickly resolved already and only one is currently open. If we were to get multiple complaints (3 in a row) that didn't get resolved quickly, then we close the company's account with us. That just hasn't been the case here with CameraSky. I have now read several online reviews for this company, and they do seem to have a lot of negative reviews. How many of those are legit or were later resolved I have no idea. I can only verify what we have seen come through on our end. I hope that helps. Thank you for your comment and concern. Let us know if there's anything we can help you with.<br />Like · Reply · 1 hr<br /><br />Could I ask you to go along to the Trust Guard FaceBook page (https://www.facebook.com/trustseals/?rc=p), and send them a message/post about your customer dispute with CameraSky. Perhaps we can then at least remove some of their capacity to appear trustworthy.<br /><br />Thanks,<br />Karen<br /><br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12203420693289104590noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4303170759454291361.post-57378472470649169462016-11-10T21:58:49.125+11:002016-11-10T21:58:49.125+11:00Sounds like you have a similar mission to me Sevri...Sounds like you have a similar mission to me Sevrink! And yes, I've had similar thoughts re DDOS!<br /><br />I've now taken a different approach - they don't seem to be concerned about consumer laws, but are posting fake reviews to ProductReview and Whirlpool so they obviously think this is important. I've reported the fake reviews to ProductReview, and reminded them of the ACCC laws re this (it's in their posting guidelines). I've also started emailing sites that are hosting their sales coupons. This might have an impact on brand if enough people do it.<br /><br />Cheers,<br />KarenAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12203420693289104590noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4303170759454291361.post-1799852249070114582016-11-10T21:51:45.016+11:002016-11-10T21:51:45.016+11:00Ahh, I am amongst fellow Digital Skies Group victi...Ahh, I am amongst fellow Digital Skies Group victims! I was done to the tune of $600 by CameraSky. Refused to cancel my order once I realised it was (delayed) coming from overseas, won't deliver, won't refund, stalling tactics on email, etc, etc.<br /><br />I've pretty much given up on getting my money back (bank reversal lodged), but will now console myself by making mischief. I have been doing the usual social media stuff (posting and sharing the article about the NSW Fair Trade public warning), but have also started now emailing and leaving posts with ProductReview, as they are publishing obviously fake reviews from this company.<br /><br />I also like to email CameraSky at the end of each day just to let them know what I am up to - below is todays effort :)<br /><br />--------------------------------------------------<br /><br />How's that expedited refund processing going Jane?<br /><br />Wow, it's been a busy day today.<br /><br />ACCC have thanked me for my report of fake reviews online - according to the ProductReview website, this comes with a maximum penalty of $220,000 for an individual and $1.1 million for a body corporate, per breach. I also took the time to remind ProductReview that they are liable under the ACCC laws if they don't investigate - I did this on their FaceBook page - awkward, because that page has 184,810 likes (they got to see that nice warning piece in the Sydney Morning Herald too).<br /><br />The guys over at Whirlpool are looking a bit lonely, so I might check them out tomorrow.<br /><br />--------------------------------------------------<br /><br />It mightn't get my money back, but it makes me feel a little better. Happy to join forces within anyone wishing to play!<br /><br />Cheers,<br />KarenAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12203420693289104590noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4303170759454291361.post-80135093714409825442016-11-06T09:22:33.208+11:002016-11-06T09:22:33.208+11:00That has actually been at the top of this blog ent...That has actually been at the top of this blog entry for a couple of months, but only as a link. Thanks for providing the full text.Peter Macinnishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09723936464781499179noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4303170759454291361.post-17143174344284023082016-11-05T19:37:47.701+11:002016-11-05T19:37:47.701+11:00https://www.finance.nsw.gov.au/about-us/media-rele...https://www.finance.nsw.gov.au/about-us/media-releases/public-warning-do-not-deal-digital-skies-group-pty-ltd<br /><br />Public Warning: Do not deal with Digital Skies Group Pty Ltd<br />6 September 2016<br />NSW Fair Trading is warning consumers not to deal with Digital Skies Group Pty Ltd. The company trades as online electronic stores Android Enjoyed, Camera Sky and Klukkur. <br /><br />These online businesses sell electronic products, including digital cameras, mobile phones and smart watches, and one of the stores, Android Enjoyed, appeared on this month’s Fair Trading Complaints Register. <br /><br />NSW Fair Trading has received numerous complaints, primarily concerned with the quality of goods sold, the acceptance of payment without supplying the goods, the supply of goods not suitable for the Australian market and other Australian Consumer Law offences.<br /><br />NSW Fair Trading Commissioner Rod Stowe has urged anyone considering doing business with Digital Skies Group Pty Ltd to give the matter serious consideration before making any payment or purchasing any products.<br /><br />The estimated total market value of consumer detriment is $150,000.<br /><br />“This company is the subject of numerous complaints, and Fair Trading has been unable to make contact with the business owner despite numerous attempts.”<br /><br />All three businesses are operated online via three different websites: www.android-enjoyed.com, www.camerasky.com.au, www.klukkur.com. Facebook pages also redirect consumers to these sites.<br /><br />With all three businesses based online, Digital Skies Group Pty Ltd has no physical operational address in Australia, despite listing a location in a large shopping mall on all three websites. <br /><br />Customers who have dealt with Android Enjoyed, CameraSky, Klukkur or any other businesses that may be affiliated with Digital Skies Group Pty Ltd, and are not satisfied with their interaction, are urged to contact NSW Fair Trading on 13 32 20 or visit www.fairtrading.nsw.gov.au. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18028678871912625661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4303170759454291361.post-34769658125155496782016-10-31T15:47:29.235+11:002016-10-31T15:47:29.235+11:00Well once again I got bombarded with scripted resp...Well once again I got bombarded with scripted responses. They even mistakingly copy/pasted a comment into my window that was meant for someone else regarding a refund. I played dumb and jumped on it asking "Why are you telling me about a refund for a product you haven't shipped me yet? Am I to expect it arrives faulty?" to which they responded with "Sorry, that was meant for someone else".<br />Once again they asked for my order number, bank details, blood type.... so i demanded that they give me the finance departments direct contact since I wasn't willing to keep being put off for another 48hrs. I told the chat member (Jacq) that I was sick of being lied to and to give me a contact email address. After a lengthy wait he provided me with this (cs@camerasky.com.au) and claimed it was the finace team email address. Even blind Freddy can see that the email address is for Customer Service. So he was just trying to put me back onthe never ending loop...AGAIN! I called her out on it and told her to stop treating me like an idiot. She eventually gave me this email address (priority@camerasky.com.au) and claimed it goes straight to management. Well I wrote yet another email demanding my camera. Lets see if this provides more of an insight!<br /><br />I just now saw a facebook message from Camerasky appear on my phone and got excited....oooh, are tehy contact me to confirm my payment?Did they have finally ship my camera?....No... They once again asked for my order number so that they can put me back onto the never ending merry-go-round!<br /><br />No way... So I have now made a complaint with the Department of Fair Trading.Sevrinkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15773316297105677900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4303170759454291361.post-15018018342341529452016-10-31T14:38:53.992+11:002016-10-31T14:38:53.992+11:00I really hope they do Peter. Once I finally receiv...I really hope they do Peter. Once I finally receive my camera, i intend to relentlessly spruke this blog anywhere I can. I'll share it on twitter and hashtag them!<br /><br />Thank you for providing a place for the truth on scumbags like these to be told!<br />Sevrinkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15773316297105677900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4303170759454291361.post-80066045225348259822016-10-31T13:28:22.286+11:002016-10-31T13:28:22.286+11:00I wonder if they realise that all of their activit...I wonder if they realise that all of their activities are being dished up in public?Peter Macinnishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09723936464781499179noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4303170759454291361.post-43062226309335640372016-10-31T13:13:09.203+11:002016-10-31T13:13:09.203+11:0010 days later and I am still without a confirmatio...10 days later and I am still without a confirmation of payment....let alone a camera!<br /><br />I did a little bit of investigating and found that the account that they asked me to pay to in their Order Confirmation email, the one i paid money into, was completely different to the one they are currently using.<br /><br />So I contacted them...yet again and asked which account I was meant to pay and of course they said the Commonwealth Bank account (Commonwealth Bank 1496-0111 - Digital Marketing and Solutions Pty Ltd) that they are just NOW using and not the NAB account (230363501 DIGITAL MARKETING AND SOLUTION NAB - MELBOURNE OFFICE) that was stated on their email.<br /><br />Okay I said. So now you know where the money is, process my payment and send my camera!<br />They then proceeded to claim that there was an issue with NAB online banking and so payments would be delayed until this was sorted out. So like any good sleuth, I contacted the NAB and to my surprise they told me that there were NO KNOWN ISSUES currently with online banking!<br />So I contacted Camerasky with this information and am currently waiting their (scripted) response.<br /><br />Stay tuned kids.... this is not the end!Sevrinkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15773316297105677900noreply@blogger.com